Usagi Mode

That made you sound like a dick, somewhat. It IS different than government intervention. I set the real names mostly for testing purposes though one of the real names is actually serious. I'll remove the gender thing, though. The runaway Usagi's revolver is supposed to do 25 damage. Also, I already fixed the names and tested them myself, and they weren't visible to the public. You're exaggerating by saying 'instamurder' since the revolvers aren't as good as the burst rifles. Why do you even care about the actual code? It's not like it should bother you. By your logic, why have Rabbit's Doubt if there's Nanaya mode? Simple, because they're two modes with (nearly) similar objectives but different stuff. Glitch also has overpowered roles, and so do most of zantus's modes. The weapon coding was made by zantus but changed a bit by me and I didn't want to mess with it much anymore so I didn't mind it. And to be honest, a student is able to kill an Usagi as long as they're good (...and use stairs). The boosts themselves are to give the Criminal Usagi courage to actually kill and for the Executioner Usagi to be able to handle the Criminal Usagi (since they're exactly the same for those roles). Now, the coding stuff criticism was stupid (referring to when you said it's god-awful) because it shouldn't bother you or anyone in that case, as I said before.
Thanks for the criticism, though i'd rather it if you said stuff like that in a way which didn't make you seem like a complete dick next time. I will boost the runaway Usagi's revolver so it's the same as the other roles'. I'll fix the other stuff too.

Right, so i'm not going to be nice to you anymore. Here's the thing: just because you can't lol1v1 a role with your godly combat skills doesn't mean the role or the mode itself is bad. The roles themselves aren't supposed to be 1v1ed and rounds aren't supposed to be ruined by people like you who attack for the lowest reason. You are a complete dick, yes. I would've said that from the start if it wasn't for me trying to be nice. By names being visible, of course they're going to be visible at the end results, DUH. Nanaya and rabbit's doubt are killspree modes; i've seen people in rabbit's doubt killing above 1 and not getting punished -at all-, so Nanaya and Rabbit's doubt are the same, except that rabbit's doubt is good because it allows RP.

I changed the damage to the revolvers like long ago, I even updated it, so you're talking about the first time I put up the download link. Clearly, from that, I realized you're not talking about the right thing. I did not use zantus's modes as a defence either.
In fact, talking about killing reasons for roles. Look at the normal mode killer. "kill 15 students to get away with it or they'll catch you and you go to jail xddd" does that make any sense at all? The police would clearly find out it was you. Same for death note, why does Kira have to kill everyone? Umineko, why did the witch start the game with the mediator? There's no reason in the role for it, after all.

Find another person to argue with, please. I'm wasting my time writing paragraphs for you. It's not my problem if you want to be able to fight and kill all the roles as a normal student with a normal weapon solo and ruin the round in the process.

Edit: by the way, the roles health which are similar to GI weren't intentional.

Right, so i'm not going to be nice to you anymore. Here's the thing: just because you can't lol1v1 a role with your godly combat skills doesn't mean the role or the mode itself is bad. The roles themselves aren't supposed to be 1v1ed and rounds aren't supposed to be ruined by people like you who attack for the lowest reason.

I don't even kill people in rounds. Even as the killer, there's a good 95% chance I won't kill anyone. If you can't handle criticism and feedback on your mode, don't post it on the forum. I'm bringing up damage and instakills in the interest of game balance - It's an angle I generally share with Aquan. If there's no reason for the killer role(s) to be careful, there's no mystery, and considering people in this game instantly abuse any modicum of power they're given(See: Death Note) to try and mass murder, enabling them will just further reduce it to no RP involved. This is especially true when you explicitly encourage this supposed 'lowest reason' attacking. Your mode is designed for mass near-instant butchery because any of the roles can instagib whoever they want, and if it's another role, they've dropped them to half health and have a massive advantage.



By names being visible, of course they're going to be visible at the end results, DUH.

Also, I already fixed the names and tested them myself, and they weren't visible to the public.

? Why even bother contradicting yourself here?



Nanaya and rabbit's doubt are killspree modes; i've seen people in rabbit's doubt killing above 1 and not getting punished -at all-, so Nanaya and Rabbit's doubt are the same, except that rabbit's doubt is good because it allows RP.

Killing more than one person kills you at 5 A.M. in Rabbit's Doubt, unless you're the mastermind(killer) role. That's the entire premise of the round, no more, no less than one kill. It's a bad sign when you're criticizing and comparing without knowing the basic premise of the mode.



I changed the damage to the revolvers like long ago, I even updated it, so you're talking about the first time I put up the download link. Clearly, from that, I realized you're not talking about the right thing.

Actually, the damage to the revolvers was only reversed. Now the main two roles will drop someone to 31%(And kill with one use of assault slash) using DB, and the third role, now that it's even more incredibly overpowered, will instagib anyone and drop even other roles to half health in one shot with DB.

No, wait, I take that back. You somehow screwed the code up massively in regards to all that.

Lines 14 & 15 of clonestart.ms -
14. set_customattack(customrole1,150);
15. set_customdefense(50);

These are supposed to be modifying customrole2. Line 15 there locks up a server trying to load up the mode for a good few seconds, too. For the record, this is why I was advocating breaking up your code. You'd have probably noticed it if you'd split it up with spaces so each set of role modifications was self-contained in its own little grouping.


I did not use zantus's modes as a defence either.

Glitch also has overpowered roles, and so do most of zantus's modes.

Do I even need to say anything, here?



In fact, talking about killing reasons for roles. Look at the normal mode killer. "kill 15 students to get away with it or they'll catch you and you go to jail xddd" does that make any sense at all? The police would clearly find out it was you. Same for death note, why does Kira have to kill everyone? Umineko, why did the witch start the game with the mediator? There's no reason in the role for it, after all.

Normal mode's killer does have a chance of getting away. If there's no witnesses left, and the tapes and evidence are taken care of, nobody can prove they were stuck in the lockdown. It's flimsy, but due to the role not being overpowered, and assuming everyone else RPs not-awful, it ends up in a murder-mystery high-tension thriller situation. It's also not strictly enforced that the killer HAS to do that - It's a suggestion, with the role text not even saying you did it on purpose. In other words, it's a near-blank slate. As for Death Note? I've always said it was stupid. It's very well known that I think Death Note is stupid. I hate Death Note as a mode. Preaching to the choir, here. Umineko, it's obvious. The witch wants to play a game, they set up a game board, invited over a pal/love interest/rival/passerby to play. Granted, that's not super obvious if you've never read Umineko, but it's there.

If you want me to seriously get into the mode's roles and motivations, you've essentially fucked up Reisen's backstory super hard and misrepresented a ton of Touhou background lore to fit it into this idea. I have a hard time believing someone running away and seeking refuge would then immediately decide 'Oh yeah, I'm gonna slaughter these people with vastly superior military and weapon technology pointlessly, after I ran away due to being scared of death!'. No, they'd lay low. That's.. Kinda the point of running and hiding.



Find another person to argue with, please. I'm wasting my time writing paragraphs for you. It's not my problem if you want to be able to fight and kill all the roles as a normal student with a normal weapon solo and ruin the round in the process.

I'm sorry, your roles aren't anywhere near OP enough to stop me from killing them if I wanted to. Not by a longshot.


Now, even though you're totally not gonna waste time writing, you're gonna wast time reading, because I'm literally the only person trying to help you and offering feedback.

Why would anyone play this over, say, Government Intervention? Short of the thin flavor text, it fills the same niche. Super OP roles here to slaughter indiscriminately, only with even less avenues of RP open. It cuts out the (small) potential for angst, hesitation, doubt, you know, actual RP and characterization. I can't believe I'm saying positives about GI's design, but the way they have custom icons helps immensely, too. That way the normal students are wary and quick to band together in an 'us vs. them' way. Similarly, if people wanted a massive kill-fest by ultra-OP roles, Shrek mode exists. Even something like Reaper's Curse has equally unavoidable, if not even more unavoidable, death, yet has a ton of RP potential and fits the murder mystery scenario of the game.

What it needs is to fill a niche other than 'Oh, another OP massacre mode.' My suggestion would be to drastically tone down the roles - Still give them something of an edge, of course, but not to this ridiculous extent - as well as retool who the killer role is, and goals.

Make the Executioner the killer. It makes sense based on role name alone, and they have absolutely no reason to care about retaliation, because they're leaving and only there to nab the criminal, and maybe they're willing to do whatever it takes, maybe they've got that weird human-hating thing going(Which honestly makes no sense, Lunarians live eternally, the moon thing happened a scant 50 years ago, and moon rabbits are engineered soldiers that don't give a fuck and have no loyalty but whatever), maybe they're just sadistic. They've still got a concrete goal which the current killer doesn't have.

Imply that the current killer role, that would now be custom role 1, is weird as fuck. They're a moon rabbit, after all, and would basically be alien. They wouldn't be used to earth tech or the impurities of the earth, or any of that. It's pretty much their only choice for staying alive, now, so it's not like they can be too blase about it. Someone who just escaped a rabbithunt to bring them to justice probably wouldn't IMMEDIATELY go out of their way to become a criminal in their literal last-choice destination.

The third role, the already extant bunnicula, can remain mostly unchanged. They'd still be a complete wildcard. If the executioner runs into them and finds out they're an ancient criminal, maybe they can offer a pardon of their crimes, commuted under 'time served in exile among the impure', in exchange for help. Maybe the third role bunny would be willing to help if their friends are spared, or specific enemies are wiped out too. Maybe the third bunny will decide both other bunnies are dangerous and need to be eliminated, only with much less wanton murder. Maybe they'd side with the escaped rabbid, deciding to help acclimate their fellow to Earth. This role, really, is by far the best because even now it offers choice and freedom to the RPer - It's just that with everything being so front loaded as to make any conflict end instantly and blatantly encouraging careless mass murder by multiple OP roles, they'd never get a chance to take advantage of it.

I'm just trying to help, because it's clear you didn't think too much when making a fairly simple mode, and it has potential. You're free to ignore it, of course, but don't be surprised when the person you're ignoring ends up literally the only person who ever cared even a modicum about your utterly ignored and never played mode.

Also, fixed the defense/attack. Whoops.