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Post by missrinrin on Jan 7, 2015 0:12:11 GMT
Byond key:
MissBowl
Server banned from:
MetaFrosty
Host/Minihost you were banned by:
InsaneOddBall
Reason for ban:
Being afk apparently with Role.
Why you should be unbanned:
Because I feel the ban was totally unjustified and done more-so out of spite. Apparently the reason for it was because I was AFK with a role, which I was, but I generally had important IRL things to take care of and to be told otherwise is just plain rude. Mod was quick to boot from the round without asking any questions i.e. "Is She afk?", anything along those lines, the irony being I was about to actively take part in the round again seconds before being booted, she/he did not attempt at all to try and understand my reasioning for the sudden AFK which would to be a really personal reason. Mod claimed that I was a repeat offender, which I am not, I was actively taking part in a round PRIOR! Even if this was the reason, for me personally to be banned over being AFK and not other actually KNOWN repeat AFKers, leads me to believe it was done so more on a personal level. So, I'm requesting an unban, but I'm not going to apologize and beg for it, because as I've stated, it felt unjust and I now find myself seriously disappointed in the Mod Team and think there should be a reconsideration about who exactly has power or not.
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Charlie
New Member
Posts: 22 
Byond key: Rainydays
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Post by Charlie on Jan 7, 2015 1:08:08 GMT
It was not unjust and you were not banned out of spite. We've banned many people who join rounds to AFK before. You aren't even close to the first to be banned for that. Though, you aren't even banned for a long time. You're only banned for two days. But I don't appreciate you saying that it was unjust and claiming it was out of spite when it clearly was an obvious reason why you were banned for it. Though it doesn't specifically say that AFKing an entire round is against the rules... As a role, you should not AFK on a bench in the courtyard for the majority of the round for what seems like literally no reason. On top of that, you responded immediately after being booted. It sort of leads all of us to believe you weren't really even AFK. Though, we will not claim you weren't AFK because we have no proof at all on THAT, but the fact that you AFK'd as a role and did nothing the entire round is griefing. Just try not to grief in the future and you won't be banned again.
So, to summarize, you will be unbanned in two days and you aren't in trouble due to past issues. You're in trouble for griefing. Please do not join rounds just to AFK and, if you have to AFK, please try telling people you're going AFK. We may assume you're trying to grief if you're just sitting around for what seems like no reason and the fact that you responded immediately made us believe that was the case.
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Post by missrinrin on Jan 7, 2015 1:32:44 GMT
Well, I've yet to see anyone else banned for said reason, though I can only go by Nii-Nii's word, who as of right now, seems to be the only reasonable Mod.The reason why I managed to respond after being booted was, because I'm sure you somehow missed what I wrote, I was seconds away from actively joining the round again, having come back from what I had to do. Not everyone may have the time to write down that their going afk, who are you to say what is going on in their personal lives. Greifing? I was not trying to grief anyone and you know that, so don't try and say otherwise. I didn't join the round with the knowledge that I was going to go AFK, it was sudden and I had to do so. I also honestly don't care if you don't appreciate me claiming it to be unjust, it is my honest opinion as it was sudden and I was unable to give my point of view as I stated. I also presume you're the mod who banned me for starticiding in an obviously trollish map called The Box, which I hadn't known I was joining until it was too late. I don't feel I should be banned at all, as I didn't join the round with the intention to go AFK, me not being asked my reason adds to that. Cool though, whatever, I shall go to bed and see how this plays out tomorrow.
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Charlie
New Member
Posts: 22
Byond key: Rainydays
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Post by Charlie on Jan 7, 2015 2:33:14 GMT
I won't deny that Jason's (Nii-Nii) probably one of the more reasonable mods, but I'm not being that unreasonable, either. But you had plenty of time to explain between being booted and banned. It was several minutes after you were booted that you were banned. If you really need it, I can list the people who have been banned for that same exact reason. It's not really an issue to me. Anyways, I don't deny banning you (for a whole 5-10 minutes?) for suiciding in a round where I said anyone who suicided would be banned until the next round started. It's not as if you were banned for even a day for that incident. I didn't want you getting out of punishment since literally everyone else stayed in the round for their's. But this isn't exactly about that situation and it isn't doing much good to bring it up right now? Also, I had never said anything about your personal life? I had only said that you were griefing. By the way, you weren't DIRECTLY griefing anyone. You griefed the round by AFKing as a role. I'll be unbanning you in two days and we can leave it at that.
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Post by Kamuna on Jan 8, 2015 7:17:54 GMT
As someone who AFKs a lot for important reasons, I sympathize with the OP. In order to remedy this, I will put in an alternate Set Role verb for hosts and minihosts that will allow a role swap if the player with the role has been inactive for a set period of time (I'm thinking 5 minutes, with an announcement to all hosts and minihosts online every minute or two, just in case the BYOND timer is running slow, and a message when they become active again). Inactive will probably mean not talking (emotes, etc.), attacking, or walking (if the button is held down for more than a second, to prevent accidental presses). I don't believe someone should be banned for being AFK, that's very minor. Booting should suffice, and even that is a bit harsh sometimes. That way you can separate the grievers from the people who are just AFK, because if it has been more than 5 minutes and you see they haven't done anything, yet you can't swap their role, you know that they are grieving.
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Post by Egil on Jan 8, 2015 12:41:54 GMT
Instead of 5 minutes, you should make it, like, 3 ingame hours that'll cause an AFK sign to pop up on someone and a message to be sent to all mini-hosts/the host on the server.
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Post by Kamuna on Jan 9, 2015 0:11:49 GMT
I was gonna suggest ingame hours, but then I decided against it since some hosts like to have long ingame hours, and therefore may become impatient. Also, three ingame hours is way too long by default, that's 15 whole minutes on an unmodified server.
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