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Post by Pigbearman on Dec 14, 2014 19:29:46 GMT
Byond key:
Pigbearman
Server banned from:
Frostys shell
Host/Minihost you were banned by:
Wolfshock
Reason for ban:
"Passive agressive OCC/ Not Dropping Drama"
Why you should be unbanned: Not sure what was ment by "passive agressive OCC" not very many things were made clear
Im assuming the not dropping of drama was referring to me asking questions about playing with friends OCCly
I did not have a clear understanding of the situation which led to me asking more questions but was told to "read above" so I tried to get a moderator who could explain it to me to properly tell me
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Post by Wolfshock on Dec 14, 2014 19:47:15 GMT
I'm going to explain all of this here and clarify anything that you might be unsure about, despite doing so in-game multiple times, simply for the sake of posterity and transparency regarding the situation that led to your ban.
Several players were being reported and questioned for banding together using OOC communication in order to gain an IC advantage. This, in itself, is metagaming, and is enough of a reason for us to request them to stop their behaviour. We have enough difficulty revolving around the use of vague roleplaying reasons to circumvent the Random Killing rule, and it is clear to not only me, but the other mini-hosts as well, that this group was formed solely for the purpose of baiting other unsuspecting players (those that are not part of the group) into attacking them so that they can retaliate and engage in PvP.
For the sake of clarification, here's a raw, unedited chunk of the log in which I told the offending players what they were doing wrong, which acted as a final warning:
This was then questioned in Watcher-Chat by yourself. When I explained it further to you, your only response was:
All of the material was there for you to review and understand. Whilst I appreciate that these things need to be explained in detail to you guys, we are ultimately not responsible for your lack of understanding. It became apparent, after further questioning by you, that you were only enquiring about it to continue the OOC argument, and as the situation had already dealt with, there was no need for me to discuss it further.
As it's clear that the reasons you were banned were not as dire as the others, your ban is shortened to 24 hours. Hopefully this is enough explaining for you to fully understand the situation.
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Post by Pigbearman on Dec 14, 2014 20:32:35 GMT
Requesting for all the logs in question for my case
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Post by Wolfshock on Dec 14, 2014 20:55:25 GMT
Here are the raw logs, with bold applied for emphasis on our conversation:
It quickly became apparent to both me and the other moderators that you were simply asking questions to further fuel the OOC drama in chat and to try and find loopholes regarding the metagaming rule that I clearly explained to you in my first post. I want to point out that during the conversation you specifically mentioned that you just didn't read what we were explaining to you. We informed you, many times, to re-read what we had said so that the drama needn't continue, and yet you simply refused to do so. This kind of behaviour is unacceptable and is what led to your ban. My apologies if that wasn't quite clear enough in my first post.
I can understand that immediately jumping to a ban was unjustified in some regards, and that a mute or a boot would have been more appropriate, but I sincerely doubt that the conversation would have ended with that and, as it was causing such a clear disruption for every other player on the server, I chose to enforce bans instead.
You will be unbanned in due course.
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