Shi Musume
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Post by Shi Musume on Feb 3, 2015 19:44:57 GMT
Old modes we have loved in the past has faded away or retired yet remain in our hearts. That being said, I will create a list of modes which I, and other mystery script writers, may take up to recreate.
This IS NOT done to disrespect the makers of these modes. If anything we do this because we love their work and wish to see it continue.
Within this thread I will make a list and set a date at the side of each mode. This allows the makers of retired modes to speak up if they do not desire their mode to be remade.
However; as a rule we MUST give credit to the modes original maker when we attempt reviving their work.
If you wish to take up the project of a mode whose timer has run out in response time, send me a private message and I will write at the side of the mode you are remaking this mode to avoid convicts. If you have issues in recreating any mode refer to my help thread and ask questions regarding the codes you are stuck on.
Once your work is complete upload it in filedropper/ whatever as a zip, send me the link, and I will add a download link here so that the mode may be played.
If you find a mode on this list that has not been worked on/ edited/ you wish to see pulled from retirement and made playable again send me a message and I can add it to the list with a timer.
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Shi Musume
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Post by Shi Musume on Feb 3, 2015 19:47:42 GMT
Current timers:
Rokkenjima Mode- Feel free to recreate if you desired, Blooded, the owner, gave permission to do so.
Zombie-chan's Dinner Party- Timer runs out 2/11/1015 (I know it's similar to Shiki.. but if the timer runs out I have ideas inspired by this)
Artist Mode- Feel free to make based on Pryce's. We feared artist mode... let's try to make it and make it more balanced shall we?
Akuma no Riddle Mode- This is a game mode I made based on a show that could have been better. I added it to the list as a personal reminder to remake/ fix / balance the thing. If any of you wish to help me with this or have ideas that could help balance this mode let me know.
Pryce's Kitty/Judgement Mode- I'll be honest: I NEVER played this game mode, but added it to the list by request. That being said, I request info on how it was played so people know what to code. If you know this old mode from Pryce High, feel free to remake it.
Notice: If you remake a mode that was not based on an anime, you must change the plot/ characters that it is not the same to protect their rights to the copyright. However, do your best at making a mode that may have similar feeling/ game play that you miss from retired modes.
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Spottedpath
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Post by Spottedpath on Feb 4, 2015 17:46:12 GMT
You may recreate Rokkenjima mode as you please. Credit or not. - Rokkenjima owner, Bloody
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Post by Aquan on Feb 4, 2015 18:25:36 GMT
Yandere is still an active mode, and I believe Vee did not wish for Ookami to be released publicly, when last I checked.
It is probably a good idea to not recreate people's modes unless they've specifically given permission for them to become public.
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Shi Musume
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Post by Shi Musume on Feb 4, 2015 18:47:11 GMT
The reason for this thread is the fact many people we would need to contact may not even play on byond anymore.
As for Yandere, it is on the list due to the fact it is broken and I have not seen any real attempt by Puck to fix it. BUT, if you notice the date given Puck can at any time before the time contact us if he is logging in to say if he has plans to fix it on his own.
Ookami? I have not seen the owner in ages. However, it was released and commonly played on Tanasinn's server some time ago in the past.
Even still, editing will be done on the title screen/ something on remade modes to reveal whose idea the remaking/ remastering was based off of.
Thank you for giving out permission Bloody. I will wait for a time to see if anyone else wishes to help remake that Umineko mode. If not, I may do it myself.
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Post by Aquan on Feb 4, 2015 19:09:06 GMT
Allow me to rephrase. Yandere was last played two days ago, and was working properly at the time. As for Ookami, it was available on Tanasinn's server because Vee was a minihost there. I recall after the migration that Vee said the reason Ookami was not available on Frosty's is because we weren't trusted with it.
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Post by Egil on Feb 4, 2015 19:12:44 GMT
I've never understood that stance- I respect it, but I've never understood it. If you make content for a game and it's community, why would you not trust the game's owner and community with it? It isn't like Frosty/Kamuna would willingly hand files that are to remain private to anyone who asks, and if the issue is Frosty/Kamuna themself having access to the modes, then well... good for you, I guess, to have a server-exclusive mode???
I've only ever created content with the intention of being completely transparent, so that others could learn off of my mistakes/shortcomings and build off of my successes/good ideas. That really can't happen if one keeps all of their work to themselves, always afraid of it being 'stolen'... like, if someone tried to claim that they were the creator of a mode and weren't, we'd ostracize them. There's literally nothing to fear LOL
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Post by Kamuna on Feb 4, 2015 19:17:21 GMT
Fun fact: Puck == she. Anyways, I agree with Aquan. By law, if the piece of work does not have a copyright license or such, it has a default copyright of requiring the owner's permission before recreating. Copyright is opt-out, not opt-in. Now, what I mean by recreating is explicitly taking things straight from the work. If you just take small ideas, fine. Nobody's going to stop you. But the big picture? Not gonna happen. Note that this does not apply if the mode was based off of, say, an anime. Anyone can make a Psycho Pass mode, for example. See copyright laws for more information on that, there's a blurry line between stealing and creating a spiritual successor/fan-game/getting ideas from the work, and as such, it is difficult to explain.
EDIT: Please note that by default, your content is open-source (I mean, I could encrypt it, but why?), so anybody can look at it. But they shouldn't steal from it. It's my bad for not having a general license for Mystery Script work, so it is unknown whether Mystery Script work belongs to Nickr5, me, Frosty, the creator of the mode, the Misuterii community, or the general public. I have the right to change this in the future. I have the rights to Mystery Script, barring the part that Nickr5 made, which I can remake, and the fact that it is in Misuterii High, which Frosty has rights over (not going into details with Dev and such), as well as the fact that was made in DML (BYOND), which I can port over to another language. Same with 99% of Misuterii's code. So yes, that is my fault for not making a license, but I don't think I will for now. Maybe when Mystery GUI comes out, I'll have a better direction on where to go from there.
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Post by Egil on Feb 4, 2015 19:19:39 GMT
Yeah, like ofc I wouldn't recreate Ookami mode in the sense that I'd have Ookami running around the same way as in the original Ookami mode. I'd make a Neko mode or a Werewolf mode or a Youkai mode or what have you.
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Post by Veemon on Feb 4, 2015 20:31:37 GMT
The main reason I said that was because, at the time, Misuterii was being really hassled by those TrollolOwls and players like them, and I didn't feel like having it there for griefers to grief on. I didn't care if others stole it or not, that wasn't a thing.
That said, Ookami is in perfectly working condition and *can* be released if I wanted it to be, so no need to work on remaking it. And if you want to make a mode called Ookami with the same ideas feel free, it's just a custom mode.
On another note, I'd like to talk to you about something regarding Ookami mode, if you're up to it, Shi. Feel free to page me on BYOND or PM me on here.
On Pucka's mode, I think it's working now (that glitch with the weapon is fixed, I think) and it's just headicons that were bugged in it, as far as I remember. Pretty sure it's playable on Frosty's server, and people just don't either list or vote for it. (Betting on the latter).
Also, Rokkenjima would be a fun mode to play if it gets remade.
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Shi Musume
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Post by Shi Musume on Feb 4, 2015 20:34:22 GMT
Allow me to rephrase what we will do:
We WILL NOT fully remake a game. However, we may borrow a few ideas so that we can play a game similar to that we missed. Would that satisfy both you, Aqua, and you Kamuna?
Another reason for making modes is the fact some people withhold our ability to play their mode due to personal reasons, yet we may miss said game. This is another reason a remake based on a similar but not the same idea or at least combat system may be needed.
However, with you mentioning Yandere is now fully working, I will take it off the list and I messaged you Vee.
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Post by Kamuna on Feb 4, 2015 23:59:59 GMT
Yes, that's satisfying enough.
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Spottedpath
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Post by Spottedpath on Feb 8, 2015 14:46:09 GMT
Pyrce's Kitty-Judgement mode needs to be added to this list.
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Shi Musume
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Post by Shi Musume on Feb 8, 2015 22:31:51 GMT
Noted and added to the list Bloody!
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Post by Shi Musume on Feb 11, 2015 22:15:38 GMT
Zombie-chan's timer has ran out.
Feel free to remake a zombie mode if you wish for this thread!
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